Leo Lucassen is a historian and looks at how it was. It immediately invites Jan Latten ('greetings back') to the next, always expressed in a dry Limburg tone reaction: "Leo Lucassen is a historian and looks at how it was. I am a demographer and look at the numbers of now. If you want to think that everything remains as it was, you listen to him, and if you want to see what risks there are, you listen to me." #Demografie #Migratie #Religie (translated)