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Heinen calculates a 2% return for 'small savers and investors'. I want to show you how ridiculously low that is. The average return on stocks is 12%: - S&P 500 or AEX - Over 40 years - With reinvestment of dividends It is distributed like this: - 25% of the years have negative returns (average -15%) - 75% of the years have positive returns (average +20%) In the positive years, you already pay tax with a 20% return on an asset of 5,000 euros and a tax-free result of 1,000 euros. Now the tax-free asset limit is 59,357 euros. Soon, the equivalent for investors will be 5,000 euros. "Yes, but many people are savers." That's right. That's exactly what we want to move away from. If there is one thing that we can agree on in Europe and the Netherlands, it's that people need to invest more. By the way, I think we should completely abolish the tax-free result and translate it into a lower rate. It's a logical concept for vab, but it mainly causes disruptions for vwb. (translated)

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Minister Eelco Heinen of Finance is looking for alternative financing for the capital gains tax after the House of Representatives expressed unanimous criticism of his proposed tax increase for savers and smaller investors. (translated)

Heinen kiest voor andere financiering vermogenswinst­belasting na felle kritiek Tweede Kamer

The cabinet is making a plan. VVD and CDA withdraw the same day. Tomorrow a new plan will go to the Council of State, while the content and coverage are uncertain. And according to Minister Heinen, I am the one muddying the waters... What a chaos. Savers and investors still do not know where they stand. #box3 (translated)

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The cabinet is adjusting its plans again to prevent 850,000 small savers and investors from having to pay extra tax on their assets, after strong criticism in the House of Representatives. (translated)

Kabinet gaat kleine spaarder en belegger tóch ontzien, plannen opnieuw aangepast

The cabinet wants to spare the small saver and investor with small changes. Then the threshold will most likely go up from 1000 euros to 1500 euros? But so far, there seems to be no change in sight for (small) crypto, bitcoin, and precious metal investors regarding the wealth accumulation tax. (translated)

Minister Heinen of Finance assures parliament that he will come up with adjustments to protect the 'small savers'. Back to the drawing board. (translated)

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The cabinet is adjusting its plans again to prevent 850,000 small savers and investors from having to pay taxes on their assets, following harsh criticism in the House of Representatives. (translated)

Kabinet wil kleine spaarder en belegger tóch ontzien, plannen opnieuw aangepast
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The cabinet is willing to adjust the plans for the wealth tax to spare smaller savers and investors, despite the complex situation this brings about. (translated)

Kabinet is bereid om kleinere spaarders en beleggers toch te ontzien

"Editorial board: it is unjust that smaller savers and investors receive accounts presented in box 3." (translated)

Incredible @helenestafleu. Anyone who has the discipline to save, to deny themselves things, and to postpone purchases, has absolutely no moral obligation to share the reserve they have built up with those who have not shown that discipline. Come on, that's the reverse world! For the saver, this meant less often, or not at all, going on vacation, a cheaper car, not getting a new phone every year, not eating out regularly but just at home at the dining table, living more frugally, making second-hand purchases instead of new, etc. It is a choice with a price: you deny yourself things so that you have a buffer later, for when things go wrong, when unforeseen expenses arise, but also to be able to live more comfortably in old age. Those who are not willing to make that effort and pay that price have no right to someone else's savings. Do you realize that when you label the unwillingness to share built-up savings as 'petty,' you are actually mocking the discipline and self-control that savers have shown? Is this perhaps because you yourself have not been able to muster this discipline, Helene? People who save generally also handle their own setbacks, do not rely on social services when times are tough, and show that they are morally made of the right stuff. What you are doing here, trying to instill a sense of shame in savers, as if the saver is a miser and the non-saver is a victim, is truly dishonorable, petty, and small-minded. Ugh! (translated)

Incredible @helenestafleu. Someone who has the discipline to save, to deny themselves things, and to postpone purchases absolutely does not have a moral obligation to share that accumulated reserve with those who have not exhibited that discipline. Come on, that's the opposite world! For the saver, this meant less frequent vacations, a cheaper car, not getting a new phone every year, not regularly dining out but just eating at the dining table at home, living more frugally, making second-hand purchases instead of new ones, etc. It's a choice with a price: you deny yourself things so that you have a buffer later, in case things go wrong, when unexpected costs arise, but also to be able to live more comfortably in your old age. Those who are not willing to make that effort and pay that price have no right to the accumulated savings of another. Do you realize that as soon as you label the unwillingness to share accumulated savings as 'small-minded,' you are actually mocking the discipline and self-control that savers have exhibited? Is it perhaps because you have not been able to muster this discipline yourself, Helene? People who save generally also cope with their own setbacks, do not rely on social services when things go wrong, and show moral character in that respect. What you are doing here, trying to instill a sense of shame in savers, as if the saver is a miser and the non-saver is a victim, is truly dishonorable, narrow-minded, and small-minded. Yuck! (translated)

The budget plan of the cabinet is already in jeopardy. The coalition is shocked by its own plans from yesterday and the angry reactions from savers. (translated)

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The Jetten cabinet must go back to the drawing board after revelations about the high costs of the capital gains tax, which primarily shifts the burden from small savers and investors to wealthier Dutch citizens, leading to significant political opposition. (translated)

Ook drie keer is geen scheepsrecht voor de begroting, dus moet het kabinet terug naar de tekentafel

"The government is growing like self-rising flour." That's right. Well said. Collecting half a billion from small savers and throwing 20 billion to the COA - asylum. Then you don't have your priorities straight. (translated)

The proposal to further tax small investors and savers shows once again: this cabinet is not for the Dutch people. The Dutch are seen as a cash cow for leftist hobby projects like Africa, mass migration/replacement, and climate madness. (translated)

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Economists have mixed reactions to the new wealth tax, which will impose taxes on actual realized returns starting in 2028 and potentially forces more people to pay taxes, bringing both advantages and disadvantages for savers and investors. (translated)

Economen over nieuwe vermogensbelasting: ‘In het nieuwe systeem heb je geen zorgen over slechte jaren’
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Economists are concerned that the introduction of the new wealth tax, which could be beneficial for stock investors, may have negative implications for small savers who will now also have to pay taxes on their wealth. (translated)

Economen vrezen dat spaarders slechter af zijn bij nieuwe vermogensbelasting
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The government has presented plans to implement a full capital gains tax by 2028, meaning that savers, investors, and entrepreneurs will bear the costs of this tax change. (translated)

Kabinet wil snel naar volledig belasten vermogenswinst. Spaarders, beleggers en ondernemers betalen de rekening
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The tax on assets (box 3) will be adjusted starting in 2028, where savers will pay taxes on received interest and investors will only pay taxes upon the sale of shares, while the government also proposes measures to finance this transition. (translated)

Buffer aan spaargeld? Volgend jaar betaal je fors meer belasting
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The House of Representatives is critical of the cabinet's plan for the capital gains tax, which would require 850,000 additional savers and investors to pay taxes, and wonders how the Ministry of Finance will close the budget gap of 500 million euros without disadvantaging small savers. (translated)

Miljonairstaks, duurder vliegen of toch kleine spaarders helpen? Kabinet moet nog fors sleutelen aan box 3-plannen