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Madelon Vos wrote that entrepreneurs, according to the CEO of DSM, needed a reliable government, but did not get one. She stated that Dutch politics trivialized the effects of the income tax in box 2 and the high rates in box 3, and that this policy severely affected entire sectors, including the Dutch crypto and precious metals sector with more than two million investors. Vos wrote that investors had to keep track of their real returns themselves, while some banks and brokers could not provide that data and the Tax Authority had not yet verified the calculations. According to her, investors would want to deduct inflation, transaction costs, currency costs, and subscription costs from that calculation. She also reported that the man who had been at the basis of the law had since advocated for the withdrawal of the amendment and the law and for a new piece of legislation. Furthermore, Vos pointed to the rising interest rates in France and the possible consequences of that for the Netherlands. She wondered if war was looming and wrote that the Netherlands was increasing pressure on Russia. https://t.co/X4T4ze43tV #ondernemen #beleggen #politiek (translated)

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Philips has won a legal victory against investors in the long-standing sleep apnea affair. #beveiliging #website #onlineveiligeheid (translated)

Philips wint juridische strijd tegen beleggers in langslepende slaapapneu-affaire
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The European finance ministers have approved a package of laws designed to make it easier for citizens and investors to invest in the EU, although not everyone is satisfied with the compromise reached. #EuropeseKapitaalmarktunie #Investeren #FinanciëleRegelgeving (translated)

Investeren in EU wordt voor burgers en beleggers makkelijker

Eelco Van Hoecke stated that the VVD posed a danger to the Netherlands. He referred to what he called an unlimited inflow of asylum seekers, the lack of action against street violence by the Minister of Justice, the chase of investors by the Minister of Finance, and the statement by the Minister of Defense that Russia was an enemy. Van Hoecke called for never voting for the VVD again and wrote that this would save the Netherlands. https://t.co/MVH0eIEoPS #VVD #politiek #Nederland (translated)

Arend Jan Kamp asked whether the government and the House of Representatives had thought about that. He wrote that investors would keep their data carefully and report their returns after inflation. According to him, some would also record broker, transaction, and currency costs, subscriptions, data, and courses. He also mentioned "Tosti's Damrak" and asked who that would be. Kamp wished those involved success with the implementation and administration. #box3 #beleggen #inflatie #financiën (translated)

Madelon Vos wrote that the plans for the new box 3 system, which were announced last week, had caused unrest among politicians, savers, entrepreneurs, and investors. Although the capital gains tax was presented as a victory, she argued that small savers and investors would be the victims. Additionally, people would temporarily have to pay taxes annually on paper gains from bitcoin and precious metals, even if they had not sold anything. Vos also pointed to rising global interest rates and a greater interest rate differential between France and Germany. She wondered what that indicated about investor confidence and how much room governments still had if inflation and scarcity of raw materials further pushed up interest rates. According to her, the higher interest rates would also affect the real estate market: Dutch houses could depreciate in real terms next year. In an episode of Madelon Praat, she discussed how taxes, interest, and inflation impacted people's wealth. https://t.co/hVinv3HF4l #belasting #rente #inflatie (translated)

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Prime Minister Jetten acknowledges the confusion surrounding box 3 and the consequences for small investors and savers, while the cabinet is under pressure to quickly present a new tax plan for the parliamentary vote on November 12. #box3 #belastingplan #politiek (translated)

Jetten over onduidelijkheid box 3: 'Snap als mensen het niet meer kunnen bijbenen'

Heinen calculates a 2% return for 'small savers and investors'. I want to show you how ridiculously low that is. The average return on stocks is 12%: - S&P 500 or AEX - Over 40 years - With reinvestment of dividends It is distributed like this: - 25% of the years have negative returns (average -15%) - 75% of the years have positive returns (average +20%) In the positive years, you already pay tax with a 20% return on an asset of 5,000 euros and a tax-free result of 1,000 euros. Now the tax-free asset limit is 59,357 euros. Soon, the equivalent for investors will be 5,000 euros. "Yes, but many people are savers." That's right. That's exactly what we want to move away from. If there is one thing that we can agree on in Europe and the Netherlands, it's that people need to invest more. By the way, I think we should completely abolish the tax-free result and translate it into a lower rate. It's a logical concept for vab, but it mainly causes disruptions for vwb. #beleggen #rendement #financiën (translated)

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Minister Eelco Heinen of Finance is looking for alternative financing for the capital gains tax after the House of Representatives expressed unanimous criticism of his proposed tax increase for savers and smaller investors. #vermogenswinstbelasting #TweedeKamer #belastingplannen (translated)

Heinen kiest voor andere financiering vermogenswinst­belasting na felle kritiek Tweede Kamer

Our proposal to protect small investors. And explanation with justification below. https://t.co/aL7XvKBc5W #beleggen #kleinebeleggers #voorstel (translated)

Almost nobody in the chamber seems to realize this... Investors in bitcoin, crypto, and precious metals still have to pay wealth tax. Why that difference?! Can someone make a strong case for this in the Chamber? #bitcoin #crypto #belastingen (translated)

The cabinet is making a plan. VVD and CDA withdraw the same day. Tomorrow a new plan will go to the Council of State, while the content and coverage are uncertain. And according to Minister Heinen, I am the one muddying the waters... What a chaos. Savers and investors still do not know where they stand. #box3 #box3 #kabinet #belasting #chaos (translated)

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The cabinet is adjusting its plans again to prevent 850,000 small savers and investors from having to pay extra tax on their assets, after strong criticism in the House of Representatives. #Belastingplannen #EelcoHeinen #KleineSpaarders (translated)

Kabinet gaat kleine spaarder en belegger tóch ontzien, plannen opnieuw aangepast

The cabinet wants to spare the small saver and investor with small changes. Then the threshold will most likely go up from 1000 euros to 1500 euros? But so far, there seems to be no change in sight for (small) crypto, bitcoin, and precious metal investors regarding the wealth accumulation tax. #spaarders #beleggen #cryptovaluta (translated)

The box 3 plan contains a harmful crypto gap. As a result, it is not fiscally neutral, acts as a competitor disturber, undermines entrepreneurs, incites undesirable behavior among investors, and causes unforeseen costs for citizens. But: recovery can be quick. 👇🧵 https://t.co/wMhByoQFjA #belasting #cryptovaluta #ondernemen (translated)

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The cabinet is adjusting its plans again to prevent 850,000 small savers and investors from having to pay taxes on their assets, following harsh criticism in the House of Representatives. #Belasting #KleineSpaarders #TweedeKamer (translated)

Kabinet wil kleine spaarder en belegger tóch ontzien, plannen opnieuw aangepast
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The cabinet is willing to adjust the plans for the wealth tax to spare smaller savers and investors, despite the complex situation this brings about. #Vermogensbelasting #Beleggers #Spaarders (translated)

Kabinet is bereid om kleinere spaarders en beleggers toch te ontzien

"Editorial board: it is unjust that smaller savers and investors receive accounts presented in box 3." https://t.co/0geSmCgJyj #financiën #spaargeld #beleggen (translated)

It's simply not true what you're saying here @eelcoheinen @Minister_FIN!! "It's about people paying taxes with more than a hundred thousand." Investors with around €10,000 will pay taxes on everything above €1,000 in profit. The median has €15,000 in invested assets. So they pay €180 when realizing profits. Now €0. Currently, €59,357 is exempt. If you have that in invested assets, you pay €1,777. Now €0. So how come from a hundred thousand?! #belasting #financiën #beleggen (translated)

The VVD destroys the crypto and precious metals sector. The cabinet pushes investors in gold & bitcoin towards ETFs at banks and brokers. At the expense of entrepreneurs in crypto and precious metals. "It's just until 2030" as a sweetener. No guarantee that this will succeed. https://t.co/35VrLYRI7U #crypto #goud #beleggers (translated)