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Heinen calculates a 2% return for 'small savers and investors'. I want to show you how ridiculously low that is. The average return on stocks is 12%: - S&P 500 or AEX - Over 40 years - With reinvestment of dividends It is distributed like this: - 25% of the years have negative returns (average -15%) - 75% of the years have positive returns (average +20%) In the positive years, you already pay tax with a 20% return on an asset of 5,000 euros and a tax-free result of 1,000 euros. Now the tax-free asset limit is 59,357 euros. Soon, the equivalent for investors will be 5,000 euros. "Yes, but many people are savers." That's right. That's exactly what we want to move away from. If there is one thing that we can agree on in Europe and the Netherlands, it's that people need to invest more. By the way, I think we should completely abolish the tax-free result and translate it into a lower rate. It's a logical concept for vab, but it mainly causes disruptions for vwb. (translated)

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Minister Eelco Heinen of Finance is looking for alternative financing for the capital gains tax after the House of Representatives expressed unanimous criticism of his proposed tax increase for savers and smaller investors. (translated)

Heinen kiest voor andere financiering vermogenswinst­belasting na felle kritiek Tweede Kamer

Our proposal to protect small investors. And explanation with justification below. (translated)

Almost nobody in the chamber seems to realize this... Investors in bitcoin, crypto, and precious metals still have to pay wealth tax. Why that difference?! Can someone make a strong case for this in the Chamber? (translated)

The cabinet is making a plan. VVD and CDA withdraw the same day. Tomorrow a new plan will go to the Council of State, while the content and coverage are uncertain. And according to Minister Heinen, I am the one muddying the waters... What a chaos. Savers and investors still do not know where they stand. #box3 (translated)

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The cabinet is adjusting its plans again to prevent 850,000 small savers and investors from having to pay extra tax on their assets, after strong criticism in the House of Representatives. (translated)

Kabinet gaat kleine spaarder en belegger tóch ontzien, plannen opnieuw aangepast

The cabinet wants to spare the small saver and investor with small changes. Then the threshold will most likely go up from 1000 euros to 1500 euros? But so far, there seems to be no change in sight for (small) crypto, bitcoin, and precious metal investors regarding the wealth accumulation tax. (translated)

The box 3 plan contains a harmful crypto gap. As a result, it is not fiscally neutral, acts as a competitor disturber, undermines entrepreneurs, incites undesirable behavior among investors, and causes unforeseen costs for citizens. But: recovery can be quick. 👇🧵 (translated)

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The cabinet is adjusting its plans again to prevent 850,000 small savers and investors from having to pay taxes on their assets, following harsh criticism in the House of Representatives. (translated)

Kabinet wil kleine spaarder en belegger tóch ontzien, plannen opnieuw aangepast
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The cabinet is willing to adjust the plans for the wealth tax to spare smaller savers and investors, despite the complex situation this brings about. (translated)

Kabinet is bereid om kleinere spaarders en beleggers toch te ontzien

"Editorial board: it is unjust that smaller savers and investors receive accounts presented in box 3." (translated)

It's simply not true what you're saying here @eelcoheinen @Minister_FIN!! "It's about people paying taxes with more than a hundred thousand." Investors with around €10,000 will pay taxes on everything above €1,000 in profit. The median has €15,000 in invested assets. So they pay €180 when realizing profits. Now €0. Currently, €59,357 is exempt. If you have that in invested assets, you pay €1,777. Now €0. So how come from a hundred thousand?! (translated)

The VVD destroys the crypto and precious metals sector. The cabinet pushes investors in gold & bitcoin towards ETFs at banks and brokers. At the expense of entrepreneurs in crypto and precious metals. "It's just until 2030" as a sweetener. No guarantee that this will succeed. (translated)

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The Jetten cabinet must go back to the drawing board after revelations about the high costs of the capital gains tax, which primarily shifts the burden from small savers and investors to wealthier Dutch citizens, leading to significant political opposition. (translated)

Ook drie keer is geen scheepsrecht voor de begroting, dus moet het kabinet terug naar de tekentafel

The proposal to further tax small investors and savers shows once again: this cabinet is not for the Dutch people. The Dutch are seen as a cash cow for leftist hobby projects like Africa, mass migration/replacement, and climate madness. (translated)

„Het nieuwe systeem schept helderheid. In het huidige stelsel wordt met fictieve rendementen gewerkt. Als het goed gaat met de beleggingen is zo’n fictief rendement aantrekkelijk voor beleggers. Maar als het minder gaat, moet je in het huidige systeem toch belasting betalen, terwijl je misschien geen of weinig rendement hebt gemaakt. In het nieuwe systeem heb je geen zorgen over slechte jaren. De belasting beweegt mee met de rendementen.’’Marieke Blom, hoofdeconoom bij ING, ziet voordelen in de nieuwe manier waarop het kabinet vermogens wil belasten. #vermogensbelasting #beleggers #economie

Economen over nieuwe vermogensbelasting: ‘In het nieuwe systeem heb je geen zorgen over slechte jaren’
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,,Het is goed dat het kabinet het geld gaat halen bij de groep die het voordeel heeft van vermogensgroei. Dit voorstel ziet er redelijk uit, er is niet langer sprake van verhoging van de loonbelasting. We belasten inkomen dat met zweet is verdiend. Dan is het logisch dat inkomen zonder zweet ook wordt belast.’’Econoom Mathijs Bouman is positief over het voorstel, maar ziet wel een paar nadelen. #vermogensbelasting #beleggers #economie

Economen over nieuwe vermogensbelasting: ‘In het nieuwe systeem heb je geen zorgen over slechte jaren’
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„Het is een gemiste kans.’’Bas Jacobs, hoogleraar economie en overheidsfinanciën aan de Vrije Universiteit is blij dat het kabinet eindelijk de stap zet naar het belasten van de werkelijke rendementen. #vermogensbelasting #beleggers #economie

Economen over nieuwe vermogensbelasting: ‘In het nieuwe systeem heb je geen zorgen over slechte jaren’
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Economists have mixed reactions to the new wealth tax, which will impose taxes on actual realized returns starting in 2028 and potentially forces more people to pay taxes, bringing both advantages and disadvantages for savers and investors. (translated)

Economen over nieuwe vermogensbelasting: ‘In het nieuwe systeem heb je geen zorgen over slechte jaren’
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The government has presented plans to implement a full capital gains tax by 2028, meaning that savers, investors, and entrepreneurs will bear the costs of this tax change. (translated)

Kabinet wil snel naar volledig belasten vermogenswinst. Spaarders, beleggers en ondernemers betalen de rekening